Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru
 
 

Go Back   Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru > The Inner Circle > The Riverside Inn

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Mar 20, 2006, 05:10 PM // 17:10   #41
Frost Gate Guardian
 
munkyb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Advertisement

Disable Ads
Default

Two things:
1. All mission runs are paid for at ONE TIME. Usually right before the end or right after. If you get asked for payments upfront, halfway through, cut scene, whatever, you're going to get screwed and you have no one to blame but yourself.

2. He didn't do what he said he'd do... you don't pay. He starts giving you sh!t? IGNORE HIM. Idiots like that don't deserve the time of day.

I had a guy try to charge me for a Grotto run that HE DIED on and I had to finish. He had the gaul to ask for his "payment." Right... you want me to pay you for doing YOUR job?! LOL.
munkyb is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23   #42
Pre-Searing Cadet
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Default

Actually, the 500 at cutscene and 500 at the end is the most common way for the Sanctum Cay mission.

I did do what I said I would do; I got them all through the mission. No one else had troubles paying, none of them whined or complained.
Loco 123 is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26   #43
Academy Page
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: RES
Profession: W/N
Default

99% of the time if people don't spell right or don't even feign an attempt at proper grammar and punctuation, they're an idiot and you can feel assured that their services will reflect that.

On another note, why is it so bad to post other's IGN's here? I simply don't see the harm in it...?
Paul_Bunyan is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35   #44
Desert Nomad
 
Josh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: England, UK
Profession: D/Mo
Default

Wow, this argument over a whole 500 / 1,000 gold. ;\

You could've farmed around a few ten thousands of gold the time you've been arguing.
Josh is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05   #45
Frost Gate Guardian
 
lama_lord36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: belgium
Guild: Order of the Exiles [bann]
Profession: P/W
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Wow, this argument over a whole 500 / 1,000 gold. ;\

You could've farmed around a few ten thousands of gold the time you've been arguing.
Smartest thing i saw in this thread
lama_lord36 is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30   #46
Pre-Searing Cadet
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Default

" 99% of the time if people don't spell right or don't even feign an attempt at proper grammar and punctuation, they're an idiot and you can feel assured that their services will reflect that."

I know I haven't been putting in that much punctuation, but I think I have been using at least decent or more than decent grammar and I haven't seen me butcher a spelling, or did you only read the first post before making a reply?

And now that I reread some of my posts, I have been using punctuation most of the time.

"On another note, why is it so bad to post other's IGN's here? I simply don't see the harm in it...?"

Because ppl mass PM you ingame (one even asked about a Sanctum Cay run, go figure!)

Last edited by Loco 123; Mar 20, 2006 at 08:38 PM // 20:38..
Loco 123 is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2006, 08:48 PM // 20:48   #47
Krytan Explorer
 
BellyFlop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Default

Quote:
RedXevious

It all started as a nice peacful day, until I reached Sanctum Cay. I wannted to get the mission over with quickly, so I looked for someone (like a W/Mo tank) who could run the mission for me (what can I say? I was really hungry, so I thought I would let the guy run it for me whilst I go eat lunch). Anyway, I found a level 20 W/Mo called "-----" who was running, and he only wanted 1k (500 at cutscene, and 500 at Oasis). So, when the mission started, I went to grab lunch. I came back minutes later to find the runner (on the party window) had died. I was "WTF?". All he said was "wtf my bad every1 dye". But I told him "Wait, I'll come res you". Luckily, I had Sprint with me, so I barely BARELY made it to where he was (I almost died numerous times, since I had to run past so many enemies). I used Rebirth, and revived him, and he's like "thankz man". So, he continues to run to the cutscene, and I follow behind him just in case he "dies" again. Isn't really what I'm paying for... I'm paying for a run, not to follow someone around and keep them alive. But, hey. It's no biggie. We get to the cutscene together, and he demands half payment. No problem, I pay him 500g.

Next, I die, and watch him as he runs to the beach. Before we bagan, he ASSURED me he could tank the beach and survive, so I trusted him. I couldn't be MORE wrong. He got to the beach, and immediatly gets swamped and died within seconds. He was like "sorries guyz, i messed up". Anyway, we respawn back at the outpost. By now, three of the other members of the team he was running just left. He's like "go again guyz?". Me and the remaining members say "Sure". If he was a good runner, we assumed he would give us some sort of discount for the fail. Anyway, he got a few more people to fill up the rest of the team, and began again. The second run was just as bad as the first. I died early, so I had a chance to watch him this time. He was TERRIBLE. He was such a bad runner... He didn't even take Balanced Stance or Charge with him. He kept constantly dying and getting stuck. Luckily, there was a ranger who was next to him who kept reviving him and healing him, and helping him get "unstuck". The ranger was just another random guys like me who was paying for the run. He BARELY makes it to the cutscene.

After the cutscene, I run ahead a bit as he collects payments from others. Next thing I know, I hear him shouting "where are you xevious?!?!", and I replied "I'm a little bit ahead". He comes to where I am, and demands payment. "give me my money! you didn't pay!" I'm like "Excuse me? I already paid you half after the cutscene on the first run that you failed", and he's like "ohhhh, right. soz." So, we continue. Luckily, we all made it to the beach cause we fought most of the enemies on the way there (stupid runner didn't help, just stood around most of the time). When we finally get to the beach, he runs ahead trying again to "tank" it. Needless to say, he quickly get's swamped... AGAIN! He had crappy armor, and not even any good skills required to sucsessfully tank. So, me and this other guy who was in the party (me him, and the runner where the only ones still alive) quickly run up to the beach to meet him, and help him. Me and this guy fight and lead all the enemies away from ----- (the runner). Meanwhile, ----- just stands there doing nothing. Another second, and he would have been dead. We do like 99% of the work. Finally, the NPC summons the ship, and we run on.

After the cutscene, we end up in the Oasis. Everyone is very well pissed. Then, ----- demands payment. I'm like "WTF, man? You didn't do ****!". We get into a huge argument that lasts about 30 minutes. He calls me a scammer for not paying, I call him a scammer for not being able to run a mission that he initially promised. And he's like "you idiot scammer!!", and keeps constantly insulting me. As we were arguing, I mentioned how many times we had to help him, including the last time we had to help him complete the mission on the beach, all he kept saying to me "i told u not 2 help on the beach! i told u!", and all I said was, "Dude, you suck. You died the first time on the beach, and you were gonna die again if we hadn't help lead them away". And he said "i could hav done it by myself!", and I just laughed "lol. Besides, it's funny how you only told me not to help you AFTER I died on the beach, and the mission was pretty much in the bag". Anyway, after the argument, he blocks me and leaves. So, I need to know, was it not right that I didn't pay him the other 500g, or did he not deserve it because he didn't fulfill his agreement of running us?
So what you saying is, you not paying me my other 500gold right? (joke)

Quote:
You didn't do ****!". We get into a huge argument that lasts about 30 minutes.
God you have loads of patience for dumb people.
BellyFlop is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18   #48
Desert Nomad
 
Fist_of_God's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: Mo/W
Default

Any decent runner, would not even accept payment if he/she died on a paying run. They would complete the run for free. This is what I have seen from the best of the best.
Fist_of_God is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2006, 09:20 PM // 21:20   #49
Lion's Arch Merchant
 
Ninetail Trickster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T
Guild: The Rose Society
Default

I dunno if this occurs here, but I'll say it anyway.
In before the lock. Ex dee.

Seriously, it's not that big of a deal. For either of you. Just let it go. If you don't trust him, don't let him run you again. No need for both of you to keep fighting.
Should he have been better prepared? Yes. There's no excuse for not being able to complete a run people are supposed to pay for. But now he knows that, and I'm sure he WILL prepare himself in the future... he seems like a bright enough bulb for that.

Calm down... take a break, have a drink, find some valiu- er, take a break, yea.
Not worth the stress, 'kay?
Ninetail Trickster is offline  
Old Mar 20, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16   #50
Pre-Searing Cadet
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Default

I just don't like my name being posted on here so tons of people PM me

Yes, I am going to try some more builds for free before I attempt another pay run.

Thank you for FINALLY not calling me either "dumb," "not competent," "an idiot," or a "half-wit". Seeing as I came in here talking in complete sentences, unlike a lot of people who would say something along the lines as: "0MG 1 0Wn J00! STFU NuB!"
Loco 123 is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41   #51
Frost Gate Guardian
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Various
Profession: E/Me
Default For F's Sake think about how you sound/read/whine/rant/etc/etc/etc

The only thing I have to say is anyone that judges someones itelligence from the way the type mid mission is a retard in my books. Not everyone grew up typing, we all havent had computers since we were in grade one. So ya in game my typing is F'ing atrocious, generally if i get a chance I will try to state this at the start of a mission, I cannot type and play well, so either I play well, or I type well, which would you prefer?
Arguing over grammar in a video game, give me a break, you both sound like a couple of babies.
Im making fewer and fewr trips to the forums lately just cause it all a big whine fest thats it, theres rarely anything constructive or even remotley interesting being discussed , just pissing and moaning by various hard done by gamers. Do you know what these forums look like to the average person with over a grade 7 education. WE all look like a bunch of over indulgent, stuck in our over extended adolescence, arguing over grammar, and stupid pointless crap that doesnt really matter, half the time all parties involved are wrong..
Maybe more people should really start thinking about how they represent themselves , in game, on the forum, wherever, cause as it is know, I would never admit with anything other than shame, and embarrasment to being part of this whining community.

Last edited by Sents; Mar 21, 2006 at 02:43 AM // 02:43..
Sents is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2006, 04:22 AM // 04:22   #52
Ascalonian Squire
 
RedXevious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: London, England
Guild: The Goon Squad [LLJK]
Profession: E/N
Exclamation

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
I died the first time while running to the summoned boat, I should know since I was doing it, searing heat got me while running and body blocked from most sides.
I distinctly remember the boat being summoned only AFTER you died.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
If you wanted a discount you should have asked earlier not when you were going to pay. Then it would have been granted.
So, getting a discount now depends on WHEN I ask for it? That's fuzzy logic, and it doesn't make sense. You either give me a discount or not, which you refused to do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
The boat was completely summoned and I was trying to run to it
Um, no. It wasn't. The second run it was, but not the first. I remember clearly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
I did change my skillset but i never got even close to dying, hell, i didn't take 50 dmg on that run, seeing as all of you, agaist my wishes, ran to attack, which was fine by me because I was waiting for you to die or more to spawn so I could do what I was suppose to
Against your wishes? You never told us to stay back until it was too late. Only when I was completely swamped by leading them away from you did you say "don't help", but it was too late. I died seconds later.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
You exaggerated way more than was needed. If you can tell from my posts I don't talk like that.
I can tell you've made a conscious effort here not to talk the way you do in-game so people will take you more seriously.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
Many times when doing UW or FoW when everyone has payed and then have to leave, lost favor just before, or any other things, they just let you keep it.
I find it hilarious why anyone would let you keep gold for a failed run. Yes, maybe it's easy for rich people who have tons of gold, but I garuntee you that's only a small percent of people. Most would want their money back simply because they didn't get what they paid for.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
Everyone MUST have died early on the first, seeing as I was the only person left when the boat was summoned and I was running to it.
You were the only one alive at the beach on the first run. Who's denying that? I even stated before that I died after the cutscene on the first run, and watched you botch up the beach part. However, on the second run, most of the other people were alive when we got to the beach, and we all had to help you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
Edit: Please tell me, why do you think Drok's Glad Armor with Knight's Boots is "crappy armor", or have you just never seen it? Would you have said that if I had FoW armor? I doubt it but it is just a waste of money for no extra boosts to anything
Hey, how was I supposed to know it was Drok's? They all look the same. For all I know, you could have been using much weaker Glad's/Knight's armor from earlier in the game, which seemed to be the case since you died so easily on the first AND second runs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
If you still don't like my armor, tell me what I SHOULD be using.
If you were using Drok's/15k armor, then I agree. That's the best armor. However, I doubt you WERE using it seeing as how you kept dying so easily.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zPunkz
Oh, and I ignored you because of the constant insults.
Heh, that's rich coming from you. You were practically blowing up at me for all of 30 minutes. I barely insulted you at all. You kept calling me an idiot, retard, scammer, "9 year old", and so on. I had to sit through all that, and now you have the nerve to say you blocked me because I was insulting YOU? Besides, you didn't need to block me for anything. Was I constantly whispering you? No. Was I pestering you? No. We were both in a party and cahtting in the "#" Party channel. As soon as you left the party, I didn't whisper you, I didn't bother you, I didn't flame you, I just went on my merry way. So, why block me? Simple, because you knew I was right. That's what people do when they're losing an argument. They block and leave, and claim they blocked you because of "insulting/flaming/pestering", neither of which I was doing. So don't go fooling yourself. And isn't it funny how the scammers are always the ones who block you after you give them the cash? Classic example right here.
RedXevious is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26   #53
Banned
 
stickyballs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: American Servers
Guild: Sin Squad [SIN]
Profession: W/
Default

You can always say there is "scamming" in running. But it is minor compared to the Ice N' Sapphires scam is nothing. Fine, it's a few hundred gold, but nothing huge, so not really a scam. If the guy is trying to scam on a run, that is pathetic, real scamming takes place in Lions Arch. Join the big boys and scam for a few hundred PLATINUM . Lol, jk, scamming is wrong but you guys are taking a few hundred gold way too seriously. Just PM each other on your own time instead of making a thread and making it all public.
stickyballs is offline  
Old Mar 21, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19   #54
Pre-Searing Cadet
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Default

The boat was as LEAST close enough to where when I was running there the door would have been open.

Yes it does, you dont ask for a discount at the end of the run, it means you are a cheapass, you negotiate BEFORE the run.

Against your wishes? You never told us to stay back until it was too late. Only when I was completely swamped by leading them away from you did you say "don't help", but it was too late. I died seconds later.

Too late for what? I have said it REPEATEDLY I DIDN'T CARE if you died there WERE other people than you on that run, stop being so self-centered.

I always talk like this on forums, in game i rarely use capital letters but I try to spell things right and use correct grammar.

It wasn't a failed run, we lost favor or they had to leave. There's a difference. Most of them actually don't ask for it back.

APPARENTLY, you are "No, I didn't. I died early in the second run, but not the first." So you just said you WERE alive in the first one, so which was it, did you die fast in the FIRST one or the SECOND one, it's fun when people contradict themselves while making an argument.

Well I could msg you the pictures or post them, if you would like to see my armor.

Oh, yes, please keep telling me you barely insulted me, its quite funny actually. Yes, I know you weren't whispering me, I block people just because they annoy me.

"And isn't it funny how the scammers are always the ones who block you after you give them the cash?"

What the crap? You didn't even GIVE me any money to scam!
Loco 123 is offline  
Old Mar 23, 2006, 05:45 AM // 05:45   #55
Ascalonian Squire
 
RedXevious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: London, England
Guild: The Goon Squad [LLJK]
Profession: E/N
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loco 123
The boat was as LEAST close enough to where when I was running there the door would have been open.
Again, not true. For the last time,I CLEARLY remember the boat being summoned only AFTER you died.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loco 123
Yes it does, you dont ask for a discount at the end of the run, it means you are a cheapass, you negotiate BEFORE the run.
Um, no. Asking for a discount should not have time limits on it. Either you give a discount for your first failed run or not. It does NOT depend on *when* I ask for it, but on whether you fail a run or not. And you refused, simple as that. You failed the first run, yet you still refused a discount. Don't try and get around it with your retarded "you can't ask at the end" argument.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loco 123
Too late for what? I have said it REPEATEDLY I DIDN'T CARE if you died there WERE other people than you on that run, stop being so self-centered.
Um, what? You did NOT repeadtedly state that. And how exactly am I being self-centered by helping you complete the mission? I was doing your job!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loco 123
I always talk like this on forums, in game i rarely use capital letters but I try to spell things right and use correct grammar.
Good to hear it. But you still talked like that during the mission.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loco 123
APPARENTLY, you are "No, I didn't. I died early in the second run, but not the first." So you just said you WERE alive in the first one, so which was it, did you die fast in the FIRST one or the SECOND one, it's fun when people contradict themselves while making an argument.
Wow, just wow... I take it you don't know how to read either? Go and read my first post again. Look at it very clearly and take it all in. I said during the first run, I did NOT die between the beginning of the mission and the cutscene. However, on the SECOND run, I DID die before the cutscene. I died on both runs, however, you stated I died early in the first run, and I corrected you by saying I did NOT die early in the second run (ie: before the cutscene), but I did die after the cutscene. Learn how to read.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loco 123
Well I could msg you the pictures or post them, if you would like to see my armor.
Alright, we believe you. You're using Drok's armor. But Jesus Christ, the way you were playing and talking, it looked like you were some 12 year old noob who didn't know what he was doing and couldn't complete a mission. You looked like a total idiot who kept getting stuck and dying easily.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loco 123
Oh, yes, please keep telling me you barely insulted me, its quite funny actually. Yes, I know you weren't whispering me, I block people just because they annoy me.
And how exactly did I annoy you? By refusing to pay for something that you did NOT deliver? Besides, you "ran" from the argument like a coward who had run out of defenses. So get off your high-horse and stop claiming you blocked me because of "annoyance", or "pestering". You only blocked me and ran because you knew I made sense.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loco 123
What the crap? You didn't even GIVE me any money to scam!
I gave you 500g. And for such a bad run it was, even 500g was too much. So, yes. You scammed me.

By the way, bucko, learn how to post Quotes in your message as I have done above. It's easier for people to read that way. Or is that too much work for you? Like spelling every word insted of using numbers?

Last edited by RedXevious; Mar 23, 2006 at 05:48 AM // 05:48..
RedXevious is offline  
Old Mar 23, 2006, 05:54 AM // 05:54   #56
Aquarius
 
Lasareth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place
Default

Alright, guys. Really, if you have a dispute, take it somewhere private.

As this thread's just turned into an argument over who said what etc, it's reached a dead end. Closed.
Lasareth is offline  
Closed Thread

Share This Forum!  
 
 
           

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FeaR1 Sell 1 Feb 25, 2006 02:57 AM // 02:57
akkarin Sardelac Sanitarium 2 Feb 10, 2006 02:03 PM // 14:03
Price check"ebon Gladius of Swordsmanship" & " icy great Axe of Fortitude" Zedd Zorander Price Check 1 Jan 22, 2006 04:00 PM // 16:00
"How to be a Monk friendly group" aka "How to not die all the time" WillOrWil Gladiator's Arena 159 Aug 19, 2005 05:09 AM // 05:09
Attelim Technician's Corner 36 May 16, 2005 08:22 AM // 08:22


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:18 AM // 04:18.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
jQuery(document).ready(checkAds()); function checkAds(){if (document.getElementById('adsense')!=undefined){document.write("_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'Adblock', 'Unblocked', 'false',,true]);");}else{document.write("